In this interview, he talks about how he was using InfusionSoft for several years, which cost him a ton, not only in the direct cost, but also in all the help he had to hire to make it work for him, and the fact that he had to focus more on project management than on running his business.
Enter Simplero, and his business is much lighter, runs more smoothly, he can easily do everything he needs to do himself, and his business has grown tremendously.
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Updated 6/24: Fixed the sound so you can hear both of us.